This is in part due to the rise of budget airlines, whose lower rates have forced the larger carriers to drop their prices to stay competitive. But there are ways to decrease the cost of your flight even further, and it starts with being flexible with your travel schedule.

“You talk about building your own layover and how that is the way to cross the ocean as cheaply as possible,” said Joel. “You talk about how it can save up to 80% sometimes.”

Keyes said he mastered creating layovers when he was planning a trip to Norway. The price of a non-stop flight from his home in Washington D.C. to Norway was between $700 and $800. However, a flight to the country of Belgium was $250.

“I remembered that flights in Europe are pretty cheap, and I could fly up to Norway for like $50,” Keyes told the hosts. “I was able to fly into Belgium, spend a couple of days exploring and then fly up to Norway.”

To hear all of tips Keyes has for finding the best flights, check out “Navigating the New Era of Cheap Travel with Scott Keyes” on the How to Money podcast. Download it on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get listen to podcasts.

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